Comments on: Cellulite Mythology https://gokaleo.com/2013/03/13/cellulite-mythology/ Sanity in health and fitness. Wed, 17 Jun 2015 14:58:25 +0000 hourly 1 By: Go Kaleo https://gokaleo.com/2013/03/13/cellulite-mythology/#comment-36923 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:44:42 +0000 https://gokaleo.com/?p=1108#comment-36923 None of this proves that cellulite is caused by toxins.

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By: Sabrina https://gokaleo.com/2013/03/13/cellulite-mythology/#comment-36775 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 05:41:07 +0000 https://gokaleo.com/?p=1108#comment-36775 Well I wouldn’t know what to say to that. That is not the norm, at least not where I am from. I have never seen a child with cellulite and never have heard of it before. Never happened to me or anyone I ever knew when I was a kid either.
According to information in scientific communites cellulite is generally thought not to show up until puberty or later. Here’s a random source to prove that I’m not making this information up.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/280435-cellulite-in-children/
If you have a problem with it, go bark at the people who do these studies to find out all this information. It makes no sense to debate with me about it, I didn’t make any of this information up, but I will gladly provide you with sources to correct information. I’m just an ordinary person appreciating the fact that the author of this thread is helping women with body image issues, and just trying to point out the fact that the time frames of those pictures were not historically known to be times of great nutrition like the author is trying to present.
Also, I personally follow naturopathic medicine. It saved my life so I will defend it rightfully.
I didn’t invent it, but it has helped cure me of disease and many health ailments, AND the naturopathic techniques I used, helped to cure my cellulite which was brought on after my drinking, so obviously it was NOT a normal body function for me. Maybe it is for everyone else in the world, who knows, but I do NOT believe for one second that the majority of people are truly healthy in this world. I think someone would have to be awefully brainwashed to believe that they can get away with eating cheeseburgers and still be considered as healthy. I enjoy the fact that I could actually do something about it. It’s not something I just have to submit to. I have never had good confidence in myself. I like the fact that women should be able to be okay with having cellulite, but I enjoyed getting rid of it personally because it does make me feel better. I work out lots and having dimply skin made me feel not as good about my muscles because I couldn’t really see my progress under that.
I just think it’s okay to be confident in yourself no matter what you look like, yet it’s also silly to disclaim things that are actually proven by fact and that have worked for hundreds of thousands of people, such as naturopathy.
I also think it’s silly to dismiss health issues in our society. Illness is a major problem in our society and has been for centuries – it isn’t wise to just turn a blind eye to it. Rather, it would be much wiser to educate oneself before reading claims like this on the internet.
Did any of you actually take the time to look into the background of these pictures? I’m guessing not, and that you just believe whatever you read online, that is written from someone without a credible certificate. Did you take the time to research the history of those time frames? If you did, you would realize that history was not ideal in regards to nutrition and societal illness.
It would be absurd to base this conclusion on pictures based on historical time frames where people had very poor diets.

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By: Sabrina https://gokaleo.com/2013/03/13/cellulite-mythology/#comment-36752 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 05:07:22 +0000 https://gokaleo.com/?p=1108#comment-36752 The idea that food consumption was healthy in the above time frames is not factually correct. And no, you did NOT back up any of those claims by scientific evidence.

Truth about the Jarawa:
“^ Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Francesco Cavalli-Sforza (1995), The Great Human Diasporas: The History of Diversity and Evolution, Basic Books, ISBN 0-201-44231-0, “… Contact with whites, and the British in particular, has virtually destroyed them. Illness, alcohol, and the will of the colonials all played their part; the British governor of the time mentions in his diary that he received instructions to destroy them with alcohol and opium. He succeeded completely with one group. The others reacted violently”

Basic history of food habits in the olden days:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8848874
“The Renaissance period in Europe saw many dietary changes due to imports of new ingredients from the Far East as well as from newly discovered Central and South America. Maize and potatoes rapidly conquered European markets and because of their easier cultivation and higher calorie content, displaced grains such as wheat and rye. Drinking habits too changed, when tea, coffee and chocolate were introduced, first as strengthening medicines, later as ‘delicatessen’ in the aristocratic British and French cafés. These new foods and beverages may have helped diminish the periods of famine typical of Medieval and Early Renaissance times. In the 16th and 17th century, new diseases were described that were directly related to dietary intake. Ergotism and scurvy, particularly, sometimes decimated whole populations in rural areas or at sea. It was not until the 18th century that scientific research elucidated the cause of such diseases and helped us to understand the importance of a balanced diet”
As for the 1930’s…
http://www.sirc.org/timeline/1930.shtml
A lot of sickness and disease in the 1930’s: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3468301278.html
If you did you research in the first place, you would have realized that nutrition was not proper in the time frames of your pictures and many people were just as sick, if not more, than they are today.

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By: Anonymous https://gokaleo.com/2013/03/13/cellulite-mythology/#comment-36731 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 02:03:54 +0000 https://gokaleo.com/?p=1108#comment-36731 Sabrina, Both of my daughters have cellulite on their little tushies. One is 10 months old, the other is 2 years old. They are very active, eat healthy diets, and are babies!! To say young children don’t get cellulite is false. I have seen most young kids (girls) with cellulite somewhere on their bottoms or legs (I work in the nursery of my very large church with lots of kids- changing diapers). This is normal.

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By: Go Kaleo https://gokaleo.com/2013/03/13/cellulite-mythology/#comment-36678 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 19:58:41 +0000 https://gokaleo.com/?p=1108#comment-36678 I presented scientific evidence in my original post (the one this one is a follow up to). You’ve provided none.

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By: Sabrina https://gokaleo.com/2013/03/13/cellulite-mythology/#comment-36677 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 19:42:26 +0000 https://gokaleo.com/?p=1108#comment-36677 How so? That is the truth about history. You can’t possibly say people were eating healthy in the dark ages all the way up to now. Your opinion is not based on facts. Those pictures were all taken in times when eating was not ideal.

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By: Go Kaleo https://gokaleo.com/2013/03/13/cellulite-mythology/#comment-36659 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 16:56:22 +0000 https://gokaleo.com/?p=1108#comment-36659 Wow, there’s a lot of unsubstantiated woo here.

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By: Sabrina https://gokaleo.com/2013/03/13/cellulite-mythology/#comment-36651 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 16:01:45 +0000 https://gokaleo.com/?p=1108#comment-36651 I really appreciate what you are doing to help women’s body image issues. Those women in the pictures are very beautiful. Cellulite should not be something that women feel upset about, it is very common and has been for a long time.

However, these pictures are not history a very long time ago – they are all recent history, when the invention of the camera was created and also the invention of bad food had already been around for several generations, whereas white people were eating crap.
People will flock to where people will flock, but unfortunately this is not the truth.
The 17th century brought more health ailments than today; people died of ailments frequently and barely had access to proper nutrition, for example scurvy and many other sicknesses. The dark ages did not boast of opportune health, however they did have better body image than we have today and women with curves were regarded as beautiful and cellulite was not frowned upon nor were small penises, but the “fashion” changed in time. Eating disorders were still very prevalent in the dark ages, where binging and purging was seen as a natural custom after gorging on huge feasts, also there were vomitoriums in Rome. Ever since Roman times people have been eating badly, but there have always been exceptions.

Eating was generally not healthy then or now. In the 1930’s (you have pictures around that time frame) people had a lot more health issues than today because they weren’t as immune to all the unhealthy foods of society. Many tribal people died due to colonization.
You are also wrong about the Jarawa. There diets are not healthy or traditional anymore. They were colonized just like every aboriginal tribe, introduced to alcoholism, disease and white man’s unhealthy foods but they are known for eventually fighting back and trying to regain their independence, however, now they have schools and regular contact with outsiders as well as food markets…
Aboriginal peoples of all things suffer the most health problems due to the fact that there diets were so clean before they were colonized, and colonization ruined their health once they became more dependent on white society. It is a false claim to say that the Jarawa are an untouched tribe.
Unfortunately, I could debunk all these pictures. They are set in time frames where eating was not healthy and food industrialization was already in progress.
You may try to disagree with this, but this the truth, unfortunately it is not written in white man’s history books.
Farley Mowat documented the fur trade in Canada, however and has some very disturbing facts in his book, which is the only time I think I have seen that a white man has ever documented the truth. I love his books, they are very interesting and he had such an amazing past. In “No Man’s River” he explains about one of the last untouched Inuit tribes during that time and how he watched them die from all sorts of things like the pox, be raped, treated like monsters and then be forced to starve to death because they had become reliant on guns and white man’s food during the fur trade. During long winters when the animals did not come, trading posts refused to supply any food to them and they instead watched these people starve to death, because many of them refused to use guns to hunt and their “savage hunting weapons” had been taken away. If they hadn’t been forced to lose their traditions, they would have been able to hunt enough food for survival…
So the introduction to white man’s food in the olden days has always made people very sick and even die, and that can be as simple as to the fact that native people never ate wheat or dairy and did not have agriculture until white settlers showed up. That’s why First Nations and Native American people have more health problems than most people. Then the growing of crops became popular for many tribes and the nomadic ways ceased.
Even if you were to go back in time a long ways back, health wasn’t always ideal. Our tribal ancestors had very tough lifestyles, surviving on edibles in nature and meats, and weren’t always able to eat enough to survive.

And I have to disagree with these unfactual statements on cellulite. I do agree that it is not something to be ashamed of. It isn’t unattractive, in fact many men have found it appealing since a long time, and it doesn’t mean you are unhealthy or fat, but it is caused by blockages in the fatty tissue which build up toxins that come into our bodies through foods and environmental factors which is why young children don’t seem to get it, that is the reason why dry skin brushing and detoxing is so effective to cure it, as well as rebounding (jumping on mini trampoline), running, massage, drinking lots of water, hydrotherapy, cranberry juice, eating healthy organic foods that you can digest easily, and making sure you are not constipated. When you change your lifestyle and switch to foods that your earliest ancestors used to eat instead of the white man’s diet and incorporate a long dedicated time of skin brushing and detoxing, you will notice improvement. It takes up to 6 months at a time to lose some toxins that have accumulated in the legs.
Obviously, cellulite moves around. It has to be broken up and then released. There is a lot of factual evidence proving it is toxin related. There are also a lot of people that have gotten rid of it by following these steps or are getting rid of it with these steps. Also, any naturopath will tell you that this is true.
For me, I first got cellulite when I was anorexic and extremely underweight so the claims that it only effects fat people are wrong. Despite my terrible diet and the bad things I ate when I suffered from disordered eating, I didn’t gain cellulite until I started engaging in alcoholism. After about 3 weeks of drinking daily and being extremely dehydrated is when I first noticed the cellulite appear, thus I know it has to do with toxins… It takes a really long time to purify the body after significant toxin intake. It is not something that you can just take a few detox pills or do it for a few weeks and never again, it is something that takes many years to clear up, especially with how toxic our environment is and thus detoxing must not be aggressive, nor should it be temporary, it should include healthy lifestyle changes that are permanent.

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By: MJ https://gokaleo.com/2013/03/13/cellulite-mythology/#comment-36493 Sat, 30 Nov 2013 20:43:25 +0000 https://gokaleo.com/?p=1108#comment-36493 Do you have any reliable sources or literature you can refer us to on exactly what the cause or reason for cellulite is on the biological/molecular level? Also, have you come across any reputable sources indicating ways to prevent or slow the progression of the appearance of cellulite or is this really just something out of our control?

Thanks so much for this enlightening post!

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By: Natasha Stark https://gokaleo.com/2013/03/13/cellulite-mythology/#comment-36037 Thu, 28 Nov 2013 10:48:40 +0000 https://gokaleo.com/?p=1108#comment-36037 Thank you for finally saying something intelligent and interesting on this topic. I am fed up with women being made to feel fixated on their looks and its incredibly sad that this ignorance still exists. This type of discussion and education is key if we are finally to feel equal in a society where no man has ever fixated over his body image in the same way we do.

The daily mail in the UK is one example – they have a side bar on the website that is constantly filled with A-Z list celebrities with actual zoomed in pictures of all their flaws. Its actually disgusting that they are allowed to get away with this and spread this type of misery. Its worse in the summer.

Thanks again – and may common sense prevail so that women can get on with being incredibly awesome, intelligent, loving and nurturing.

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